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by Elifet on 1/30
Mezanmi, kanpe deye yon mikro ap repete anafalbet pa bet pa ka regle yon med pou haiti nan moman-an
ba moun espwa pa ka bati kay
ede moun priye pa ka anpeche yon domi nan lari
bel pawol pa ka bayo ni manje ni bwe
se aksyon ki konte,
ki sa ou vinn fe
ki le wap fel
ki jan-w pral fel
nan konbyen tan l-ap fet
afe bagay paste, pe, monseye, ap vinn bay bel pawol la
mwen pa kwe ke Haitien pral tonme pou bagay sa yo anko
je tout moun kle konnye-a
je tout moun kle
sa pa regade-m kiyes ki fe-l
depi li fet
kreyol pale kreyol konprann
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by Gerome on 1/22
Im sorry but we cannot afford another disaster, jn bertrand aristide can stay where he is at
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by Gonaives on 1/20
Absolutely.
Aristide should return to Haiti immediately.
Never mind what the International Community wants.
Haiti is not their country.
It is ours.
Aristide has over 90% support in Haiti and was democratically elected to protect our interests.
He protected them so well, refusing to privatize, increasing the minumum wage, demanding the rich pay their taxes instead of bribing officials.
Since his departure, Haiti has slipped further into chaos.
60% of Teleco now belongs to foreigners instead of to Haitians!
Never mind the small enclave of elites and wealthy Duvalieristes who don't want him. Those same people never cared for the poor in Haiti.
Stop keeping Aristide out.
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by rod, replying to Gonaives on 01-Mar-10 10:18 PM
Mwen li opinyon tout moun mwen respekte yo men pa gen rezon pou moun ap desan yon lot.Reg jwet la se respe yon pou lot menm le lide nou depaman.
Mwen kont li sou tout fom pou Aristid tounen Ayiti.Mwen kont li tou le moun ap desan Duvalier pou Aristid.
Aristid, se yon neg ki te leve kay pe senjanbosko yo li te yon pe ki tap preche teori liberasyon mesaj li yo te totalman anti enperyalis sou baz sa li te bati kapital sosyal e politik li.li te fe etid sikoloji ak plizye lang. Li se yon ekriven tou.
Duvlier, se te pitit yon jij ak yon patisye.
Li te leve ak tant li te leve ak tant li ki te sipotel, li te vin yon dokte ki tap konbat pyan ak malarya nan tout kwen peyia.
Li te yon ekriven ki tap lite kont rasis ansanm ak Jean Price Mars.Lite direkte sante sou Prezidan Estime, minis santa ak travay sou Magloire.
Ki souvni Aristid kite pou Ayiti?Divizyon, pelebrun, chime, kidnape elatrye.Tout saki te boy li fe yo aveg, sa yo ki te aveg li fe yo fou pliske yo rive detwi menm sakap itil yo tankou:lekol, mache ak biro piblik.
Li fe rout kay li li kite det milyon dola pou leta peye La Fanmi se Lavi, li fe yon inivesite se prive li te ye.Li tap preche kont enperyalis, li marye ak yon fanm ki se pitit tonton Sam.Li te rive sou pouvwa ak 3 mil dola ayisyen sou kane l, li pati ak 900milyon
dola ameriken plis yon vale likid an bye 100 dola ki te lakay li. Intenasyonalman yo rekonet ke Aristid Vole 350 milyon dola ameriken pou ayiti pandan 15 lanne sou pouvwa ak akolit li yo.
Duvalier vole 5. 7milyon dola ameri
Ki souvni Duvalier kite pou Ayiti rout nasyonal #1,#2 ayopo yon sel vwa li te fe a se li tout moun ap itilize, te gen yon avyasyon ki te gen elicopte ak avyon yo disparet.Peyi a pat sal konsa, te gen dlo, kouran 24/24, ledikasyon pat konsa, pat ensekirite ak kidnapin, pat gen tout dezod sa yo. Ayisyen pat trop enterese al viv nan peyi etranje.
Olye neg yo amelyore se kraze yo kraze.Nou pa bezwen ban regresis sa yo.
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by hot Juice, replying to Gonaives on 04-Feb-10 01:55 AM
Although I respect your right to an opinion, I think you're full of nothing.
I don't have a clue about what you're babbling about.
You sound like one of those people that are satisfied by receiving a bag of rice from incompetent and corrupt politicians.
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by Myriam Pierre on 1/18
Helllllllll Nooooooooooooo
He's the devil incarnate.
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by guiyou, replying to Myriam Pierre on 27-Mar-10 09:14 PM
aristide se yon manje ki si keyo jete pou pa bon nou pa besoinl anko voyel bay chien en afrik yo pou yo ka manjel
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by ucyiou12, replying to Myriam Pierre on 05-Feb-10 12:21 PM
Please explain what "the devil incarnate" means.
Was he ever elected to any political office?
Does he and his family have any human rights?
When and how was his Haitian citizenship invalidated?
Please expound on these points to help me understand your thinking process.
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by roby, replying to Myriam Pierre on 29-Jan-10 08:10 PM
Hello,
Why do you react like that?In my opinion, you should be more moderate.It's a subject.They want to have your points of view not that sentence.Your should take time to give what you think -not like that.
Please, I urge you to be more moderate next time if you would like to reply again.
Take care.
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by Ucyiou12 on 1/18
Absolutely, they should never have been forced out of their country.
This was a violation of the rights of President Aristid, his family and the Haitian people by thugs outside of Haiti.
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by fjl, replying to Ucyiou12 on 13-Feb-10 09:21 AM
Absolutely not; this is the worst thing that could happen at this point.
Aristide was a charismatic but divisive leader.
All he did was set the masses against the middle and bourgeois class of the country.
His goverment was plagued with corruption, drug trafficking, and incompetent people.
He intimidated Port-au-Prince with his chimeres and gangs and failed to move the country foreward.
He still have a naive illiterate mass that believe in him and may use their thrust to get back into politics and destabilize the country.
We don't need that now and should postpone his home coming to 20 or 25 years from now. Hopefully, Haiti, by then, will have a stronger democracy and a better economy.
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by pierre Manuel Emile, replying to fjl on 18-Feb-10 12:37 PM
DEMOCRACY : http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dem...
Government by the people; especially : rule of the mass/majority
A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.
Mr. Jean-Bertran Aristide won about 60% at each Haitian election.
Yet you said:
"He still have a naive illiterate mass that believe in him and may use their thrust to get back into politics and destabilize the country."
By your own saying, Mr. Aristide is a very popular leader.
Are you a democrat?
Do you think it would be better to have a Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro in Haiti too?
If you do not want the mass to elect their own president of their choice, be careful: you may get what you wish for.
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by frantz, replying to pierre Manuel Emile on 19-Feb-10 05:41 PM
Thanks for your comments.
I agree that the masses should have the right to elect their leader and twice they have done so when it comes to Mr Aristide.
However, our people, because of illiterary and poverty, have been used and abused by politicians they believed in. Aristide got them angry and turned them agaisnt the middle and upper class of the country.
He hired them as "chimeres" to silence his opponents and even encourage them to "necklace" those who were against his movement.
Is this democracy?
You referred to Hugo Chavez, a populist and mass lover who changed his country's constitution so he could stay in power for as long as he wanted.
Take a closer look; Aristide wanted to spend more time in power to compensate for the time he was out. If he had his way, he would have become another Chavez.
Giving money to the poor to build a political base doesn't help.
Now, Haiti because of its fragile institutions and misfortunes need to have a new group of leaders: Competent, driven, honest and dedicated people who don't just talk the talk. Aristide being a polarizing figure and a lousy politician can create instability in the country and trigger the disapproval of the international community which pretty much is feeding us at this point.
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by frantz D., replying to frantz on 27-Feb-10 01:44 PM
It has, and still is, amazing to me that most haitians do not understant, or perhaps do not care to know, that Aristide is not qualifield to be the leader of a country.
He was just a priest who was helping to feed the poor and gave them words of hope to cope with their current socio-economic and political conditions.
Aristide may have had good intntions in the very beginning of his ascension to political power but along the way he was corrupted by the very force he wanted to subdue.
Aristide lacks the scholastic foundations required and necessary to lead a nation.
He knows next to nothing in regards to Haitian Law and the country's Constitution.
We need fresh young new blood, with perhaps unorthodox ideas to help our country rebound form its malignant slumber.
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by frantz, replying to frantz D. on 27-Feb-10 05:08 PM
Amen brother,
This is exactly what I thought when Aristide decided to jump into politics.
A lot of Haitians voted with their hearts not with their heads.
We need someone who not only is highled educated but someone who understands the weaknesses of our system of governance and who can come up with ways to strenghten and decentralize the Haitian state.
This will take good planning, implementation and monitoring.
I hope one day good Haitian politicians will come and save this beautiful land from the archaic system we have now.
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by lob Olo, replying to frantz on 02-Mar-10 09:36 AM
I believe that Jean Bertrand Aristide should definitely return to Haiti.
Upon his return, there should be an official delegation awaiting him at the airport with a shovel and a pitch fork (pel ak pikwa) to hand to him and have him work the field of l'Artibonite as a paysan.
His presence would be of a decent use for the country.
Once his job is done, ship him back to South Africa.
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by natasha, replying to lob Olo on 13-Mar-10 10:34 AM
ur dumb like really stuipd he care for da country unlike the drunk we have nw and all u can say is that go killur self or sumthin
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by cassandra, replying to natasha on 30-Mar-10 07:47 PM
we do not need him in Haiti, never he is negatif influence on the Haiti society.
Do not take me wrong; he could have been a great president, but he promoted too much violence in the country.
This is the worst kind that I've seen in the history of Haiti.
He is nothing but a fool that should stay away for ever
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by Damebochie on 1/16
I personally think he should stay wherever is at and send us some (or perhaps all) of the money he stole when he was our president.
E mwen kanpe deye sa mwen di a. Sa ki fache anbake.
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by roby, replying to Damebochie on 29-Jan-10 05:29 PM
Hello,
I think you should be more moderate when you want to say something.When you want to give opinons, noboby can compel you to say what you don't like to say.It's your opinions, that's it.Why you use that silly sentence:Sa ki fache anbake....
If I were you, I would use another way to say what I want to say.In my opinions, I'm not accepted with what he did when he was governing Haiti.
He should have ananlized Haitians' situations before doing something like that. He is really a bad guy for what he did in Haiti.You see I'm on the same way with you, but I don't use words to threaghten people.This is what we need to do if we want people listen to us in what ever we want to say.In the way, he MUST stay where he is for a long time like the others ousted president do.He has nothing he can do for Haiti now.He has no real, no good for Haiti.
He is DONE for ever in ever. We are not going to accept the International bring this guy back to Haiti again.
He can say what he wants to say where he is, but not in the DESSALINES' GROUND
THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING MY SUGGESTING.STILL, MY SINCERE CONDOLENCES TO ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO HAVE FAMILY PASS AWAY AFTER THAT TERRIBLE QUAKE.
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by damebochie, replying to roby on 29-Jan-10 07:00 PM
And I think you need to keep your senseless comments for you. Sa ki fache anbake refers to people who, despites everything this man has done to us, refused to understand his presence is not welcomed in Haiti; and will definitely make matter worse for us. I have no idea why you reacted that way; if like you said, you agree with me why this silly reply?
I didn't insult anybody.
For your information "Sa ki fache anbake" for me, perhaps all of us, literally means" if you do not agree with me-I am open for honest and intelligent arguments.
Geez!
Did you even speak Creole?
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by roby, replying to damebochie on 29-Jan-10 07:57 PM
HELLO,
My comment was not senseless and would never be like that as you think.This sentence" Sa ki fache anbake" means:Moun ki fache, di sa ou vle e mwen gen repons pou ou"it would never be an intelligent argument.
Perhaps you miss that point.You should go over it again.When you say something like that, you exactly mean to people not to give them your points of view. I did not either say your comment was harmful.
I just underlined the sentence you used at that point.I'm not in the way to treaghten people with bad words.The word" silly"refers to the last sentence you used after you gave your opinion on that subject, NOT TO YOU AS A PERSON.
I would never say something like that. In my opinion, when you gave them your points of view, you should NOT use that sentence like.YOur conclusion was not appropriate with the opinion.
I say it and would say it a thousand time.
When you read your paragraph, you are not going to take time to interprete it.However, people who are going to read it-will take time to interprete it and gave it a sense differently to yours.Don't be upset for that.That's what I did buddy.
I will be able to reply to you if you want to.
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by denlomene Calisteme, replying to roby on 30-Jan-10 10:16 PM
Hi Roby, go back to school, read some books, learn some grammar, and come back to us
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by damebochie, replying to roby on 29-Jan-10 09:03 PM
Tell me what's wrong with saying:"Sa ki fache anbake" Man you making a mountain out of nothing.
Again, "sa ki fache anbake" for me literally means "if you do not agree; you're welcome to argue".
and why can't it be an intelligent argument?
As an intelligent person, I always expecting to argue respectfully with anybody; and anticipate people will be intelligent enough to argue in the same way with me. Spit out!
You want Aristide back in the country.
You disagree with me, but try to hide it in this senseless argument over a common sentence.
if not then, What's wrong with you???
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by roby, replying to damebochie on 29-Jan-10 11:37 PM
It seems like you don't really understand.You'are out of the way.You should enhance your self-esteem.If you don't, you will have a lot of problems in the future.
I did not say anything to you to react like that.You really miss understanding me.I wish you take time to think a little more about you.Have ever taken time to ask yourself that question" Who am I or what am I?"
You really think like a 1st grader.You don't know how to make an argument and how to justify a thesis.
I urge you to work on it.That's will help you in future.
I'm not making a mountain out of anything.Now YOU DO.I want to tell you something very important:Setting goals and study more will increase your self-esteem.You are a big ROCK in a desert.
GOOG night buddy
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by damebochie, replying to roby on 30-Jan-10 10:24 AM
OMG!
LMAO!
ROFL!
you are a 1st grader ok ok ok ok let me catch my breath.
Oh Lord!
okay now I see what it's wrong with you. Well, let me tell you ARISTIDE IS NOT COMING BACK!
KEEP ON DREAMING.
I never had fun in my life like that. And talking about self-esteem.
you should be the one checking for your self-esteem.
I don't give a hell about who you are or what you are. you argue over a common sentence.; let's not forget the primary reason of this argument" Tell me what again is wrong of saying " sa ki fache anbake" Geez, you know what?
just keep the answer for yourself.
I don't want to waste my time anymore.
you can say whatever the hell you want.
Some people???
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